Comments on: Fort Hogan and Rogue Rumble Strips http://www.spokesrider.com/2010/01/24/fort-hogan-and-rogue-rumble-strips/ Bicycle touring and history Wed, 18 Aug 2010 05:22:37 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Spokesrider http://www.spokesrider.com/2010/01/24/fort-hogan-and-rogue-rumble-strips/comment-page-1/#comment-3324 Spokesrider Wed, 27 Jan 2010 17:23:56 +0000 http://www.spokesrider.com/2010/01/24/fort-hogan-and-rogue-rumble-strips/#comment-3324 Hi, Scott. I've been to White Pigeon many times, and have visited the land office and the site of that old academy, but have managed never to stop at the marker commemorating White Pigeon. I've seen it as I've driven by, though. There was a Potawatomi leader in Illinois who rode back and forth between settlers' homes warning them to go to safety in May 1832, at the time of the Black Hawk war. He didn't kill himself in the effort, but his own people did not appreciate his relationship with the Americans, and the American settlers managed to cheat him out of the land that had been reserved for him as a reward for his help. The story goes that they did it while he was away trying to mend relations with his Potawatomi relatives. There is a town and a state park named for him now. His name was Shabonna. Thanks for the source of that story about White Pigeon in 1830. I've often wondered where that came from. I never got into road racing like you did, and now I ride more slowly than ever, especially with all my photo stops. I was sick this past week and a few days ago (last time I tried) couldn't even run on the elliptical machine. It made me wonder about what happens when/if I can't ride any more. I hope that day is a long ways off. Hi, Scott. I’ve been to White Pigeon many times, and have visited the land office and the site of that old academy, but have managed never to stop at the marker commemorating White Pigeon. I’ve seen it as I’ve driven by, though.

There was a Potawatomi leader in Illinois who rode back and forth between settlers’ homes warning them to go to safety in May 1832, at the time of the Black Hawk war. He didn’t kill himself in the effort, but his own people did not appreciate his relationship with the Americans, and the American settlers managed to cheat him out of the land that had been reserved for him as a reward for his help. The story goes that they did it while he was away trying to mend relations with his Potawatomi relatives. There is a town and a state park named for him now. His name was Shabonna.

Thanks for the source of that story about White Pigeon in 1830. I’ve often wondered where that came from.

I never got into road racing like you did, and now I ride more slowly than ever, especially with all my photo stops. I was sick this past week and a few days ago (last time I tried) couldn’t even run on the elliptical machine. It made me wonder about what happens when/if I can’t ride any more. I hope that day is a long ways off.

]]> By: Scott Hite http://www.spokesrider.com/2010/01/24/fort-hogan-and-rogue-rumble-strips/comment-page-1/#comment-3318 Scott Hite Tue, 26 Jan 2010 08:13:53 +0000 http://www.spokesrider.com/2010/01/24/fort-hogan-and-rogue-rumble-strips/#comment-3318 John, I contacted you in 2008 about Chief White Pigeon and his run from Detroit to Millville (WP) being around 1830. There is a Mormon record that you can see on the internet by Googling "Mormon" "Chief White Pigeon". That record is from 1831 and states, "at White Pigeon Prairie, and saw the rising ground where the Indian chief lies buried, whose name has been given to the place". An educational academy and the federal land office also were named for White Pigeon in 1831. I had lunch with one of his relatives a month ago, and the 1832 reference may be to a relative or another Potawatomi or Ottawa with a similar name. I wrote a screenplay for a movie based on the story of Chief White Pigeon and other history and characters from the time period. Some of the characters are Cass, Tipton, Pepper, numerous Potawatomi chiefs and Patrick Marantette. I've read most of your blog and am quite jealous. I used to be an avid cyclist, road racer and even a messenger in San Francisco. A health problem that might be caused by too many miles in the big ring has kept me from riding for several years. Really enjoy your website, obviously. John,

I contacted you in 2008 about Chief White Pigeon and his run from Detroit to Millville (WP) being around 1830. There is a Mormon record that you can see on the internet by Googling “Mormon” “Chief White Pigeon”. That record is from 1831 and states, “at White Pigeon Prairie, and saw the rising ground where the Indian chief lies buried, whose name has been given to the place”. An educational academy and the federal land office also were named for White Pigeon in 1831.

I had lunch with one of his relatives a month ago, and the 1832 reference may be to a relative or another Potawatomi or Ottawa with a similar name. I wrote a screenplay for a movie based on the story of Chief White Pigeon and other history and characters from the time period. Some of the characters are Cass, Tipton, Pepper, numerous Potawatomi chiefs and Patrick Marantette.

I’ve read most of your blog and am quite jealous. I used to be an avid cyclist, road racer and even a messenger in San Francisco. A health problem that might be caused by too many miles in the big ring has kept me from riding for several years.

Really enjoy your website, obviously.

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